way of ventilating grievances. This problem we are 
now having between the French and the English in 
Canada will be eradicated if we just got a whole lot 
of jokes going. And Trudeau’s got to do that. Make 
sure you get that to him.” Once again I said, 
Marshall you get it to him. I remember speaking to 
Trudeau about it and Trudeau laughing about it 
saying, “Yeah, he’s probably right.” But Trudeau 
wasn’t about to launch a national joke programme. 
Marshall had those concerns and he loved to throw 
his intelligence into social and political problems like 
that but they were secondary. I think though he 
sensed—and I may be projecting here because I 
had the same sense after the exhilarating time of